Im sorry to say but i will have to be the third to leave our alliance. I think its becoming increasingly evident that this is not going anywhere and i also got an offer that i can extend to any of you. I got a message today asking if we wanted to join a slightly larger alliance and i accepted and told them that i would get anyone that wants to come with me. The alliance is The Righteous Fist and here are their forums http://z9.invisionfree.com/therighteousfist/index.php . Well it was fun while it lasted and ill see you guys around.